Selmer Paris Piccolo Trumpet Serial Numbers
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This list applies to trumpets only. It is incorrect for cornets and other instruments. Selmer started making trumpets in 1931 after buying out Millerau. French Cornet EstimateNumberYear3631937442193852519399001941124819551639195717301958205919593507196442981980Factory Confirmed serials:Cornet 1162 made in 1957. Fluglehorn 9xx made in early 1960s, 1035 made in 1965 The above table was partially constructed based on Alan's Trumpet World
I'm assuming that the 23,038 figure for 1960 is beginning-of-year. And I'm taking the purchases from the factory as manufacture dates. Therefore we have about 4200 horns made in the 40 months from 1/60 to 4/63, an average rate of roughly 1250 horns a year. From 4/63 to 1970 we had roughly 20,000 horns made, or roughly 3000 horns a year. And from 1970 to 1983, we get another 28,500 horns made in 13 years, which is about 2200 per year. I don't know whether these changes of production rate occurred suddenly or gradually. We don't have any real basis for picking the numbers so I'm going to allocate them smoothly for now.So here's a "stab" at beginning serial#'s by year: 1960 23,000 1961 24,300 1962 25,500 1963 26,600 1964 29,400 1965 32,500 1966 35,000 1967 38,800 1968 41,800 1969 44,800 1970 47,800 1971 51,100 1972 53,300 1973 56,000 1974 58,700 1975 60,900 1976 64,100 1977 67,300 1978 69,500 1979 71,700 1980 74,700 1982 76,300 1983 78,500Pictured below, left-to-right: R Dale Olson (who later designed horns for Olds), KeithEcker (who designed the K-Modified model), and Bob Ferguson (extraordinarytrumpet player and, for 25 years, soloist with the U.S. Army band inWashington DC). Thanks to Dale Olson for the picture!!   MISCELLANEOUS MORSELS OF INFORMATION I HAVE RECEIVEDAn article in the ITG Journal said that former PhillyOrch. trumpeter Frank Kaderabek's favorite C trumpet was the Selmer Radial.Large-bore Selmer Radial Bb trumpet S/N 50,6xx is marked B and 99 on the side of the leadpipe. The bore measures 0.470"Selmer Radial Bb trumpet S/N 54,9xx is marked 75 and B on the leadpipe and measures 0.464"One owner writes: Selmer produced horns in batches of 33, with valve numbers running consecutively 1-99. My horn's valves are numbered 4, 5, and 6. I have been told by Selmer factor reps that the reason for this odd numbering was that Selmer retained data on the honed bore diameter for each valve on each instrument, so that if someone ever damaged a valve, it could be exactly replaced with no loss of tone or intonation. I have been informed that a particular Selmer Balanced Action, designated as a "25B" on the leadpipe, has a measured bore of 0.472".Bore and/or Leadpipe designations Many Selmer trumpets have numbers stamped on the leapipe. It is thought by some that these numbers originally referred tothe leadpipe design (or perhaps leadpipe and bore combination). Perhapsthe meaning evolved over time, because today the number is generally referred to as a bore designation. Here is some information from a 1956 Selmer brochure which addresses the meaning of these numbers at that time.DESCRIPTIONID#BOREmedium-small190.450"medium200.456"medium-large24B0.458"large25"0.468"Back to top Send Alan email | Back to Alan's Trumpet World.All images and text, ©1999 Alan Rouse. All rights reserved.
Despite purchasing all of the assets of the Adolphe Sax Company in 1928, Selmer did not start selling saxophones bearing the Adolphe Sax name until 1931. The last Adolphe Sax saxophone recorded in the Selmer Paris archives was sold in 1944. Its likely that production of Adolphe Sax instruments ceased at the onset of WWII sometime after May of 1940. Any Adolphe Sax instrument sold after this date was most likely already made or assemble from pre-existing parts. For example, the record shows that all of the recorded Adolphe Sax instrument sales between 1940-1941 were from instruments already manufactued between 1931-36. There is a fairly detailed record of these instruments recorded in a log book in the Selmer archives in Paris up to 1936 through serial number ~1364. The record is much less complete after 1936. Instruments manufactured after 1936 range in serial number from ~1350-3600. The log book shows the serial numbers jumping around quite a bit for the Selmer/Adolphe Sax saxophones. Even so, its possible from this record to assemble a basic serial number chart for these instruments. Some instruments were stamped H. Selmer and some were not. All were stamped Adolphe Sax 84 Rue Myrha. By comparing early verses later instruments, it becomes clear that some Adolphe Sax Selmer saxophones were assembled from the old Adolphe Sax tooling and other were put togther using parts and tooling from the Selmer St. Louis Gold Metal model instruments. 2b1af7f3a8